lives so the way we look at it if we want to reach across the country, that's why the president was in montana yesterday in a community not considered typically democrat. he's reaching everywhere to engage the american people because there's not person in this country that isn't touched by healthcare or who right now is not adversely effected by the current healthcare system and it's growing worse every day. that's really the effort to reach out that we're talking about. [applause] >> okay. this question, kind of touches on the seriousness of the debates happening. there's a feeling there's a substance and a lot of noise taking up air time. from jack and jill politics. do you believe the birthers are a, crazy b, racist or,c both. those are your options. [laughs] >> interesting options. i mean come on you guys. this is ridiculous. of course he was born in the united states. unless they don't want to think of hawaii as the united states and maybe some people don't view that. but i think that, i mean the good thing about our country is everybody crazy or not is allowed to have a voice. that's wha